[ Bastien has an underdeveloped sense of obligation at the best of times. Zero interest in owing anyone anything. He had, by the age of twelve, positioned himself as a sporadically present and largely unreliable fun uncle figure to his real blood siblings. So duty, debt—even in this circumstance, it's enough to make him wrinkle his nose, just a little, in silent ugh.
The last sentence distracts him, though, from arguing whether that's love, or maybe needs its own sort of word, like obliged or honor-bound. ]
Mm.
[ Intelligently. But he is thinking, about Gwenäelle—and Madame de Foncé, and Athessa, and Jenny Lou, and (in her distinct sort of way) Alexandrie. ]
[ A small shrug. He smooths the furrow with his hand. ]
Whenever you have been so upset about someone saying something to you or being cross with you, it has been a young woman. I have never rubbed your back because you were quarreling with Benedict.
[ Back to Orlesian, ]
I suppose he might not have that in him. But you know what I mean, yeah?
[ Bastien smiles, faintly pleased despite the general awfulness of the situation. Maybe he ought to push harder for them to go see Nadine sooner rather than later, or to invite her here if By can't be spared that long. Maybe a few days with her would give Byerly a bit more of a shield, where sister-shaped people were concerned, if it didn't fill the hole entirely.
Or maybe that is too optimistic. But it would be nice, surely, regardless.
He'll bring it up later. Now, cautiously hopeful they'll be able to get through it now that By is thinking and laughing a little: ]
What happened exactly? Was it about that— [ little spat? not even that ] —conversation you had over the crystals?
I followed up afterwards. I tried to invite her to play cards with me - She said no. Then she explained that I was being hurtful to her, and then I said that I hadn't meant to, that that's...just how we talk. You and I talk that way all the time. I insult you, you insult me - And she said that it was hurtful, and that speaking to me hurt, and that she would prefer not to. And did not allow me to respond.
Maybe she wanted you to say you were sorry it hurt her, [ is a casual proposal, with little basis, ] and you would stop—instead of that that is just how we talk. But she might have given you more time.
[ Byerly, in his experience, isn't not someone who says he is sorry to his friends, so much as he is not someone who does it lightly. Bastien will say he is sorry to anyone, for anything, without much thought—maybe because most of the time the sorriness isn't a particularly deep sort. Like little seedlings that have barely grown roots and slip cleanly out of the earth when tugged. Meanwhile Byerly wrenches out fully-grown apology-shrubs that bring up chunks of dirt and stone and other plant's roots along with them. ]
[ For a liar, Byerly has an odd sense of honesty. The thought of being dishonest when it comes to this - Out of the question. He might delude himself, but he won't knowingly deceive others. Not when he cares about them. ]
I likely won't stop. We can't just - be different, like flipping a switch. The way we walk in the world, the way we speak and thing, is habit. Old mabari don't take to new commands.
[ It is an odd thing for a liar. But it's not an odd one for Byerly. ]
You are not a mabari, [ is accompanied by a smile and the obvious, teasing withholding of any similar assurances that he is not old, before he repeats: ] You are a thousand things.
You are gentle and kind and serious, when I need you to be. If something bothers me, you don't joke about it. You listen.
[ He listens to Bastien in a way he does not listen to everyone—even to Alexandrie, Bastien knows, from his experience as an unhappy observer. There's something to chew on there. Some similarity between this and when Alexandrie was sitting on the floor, miserable about being denied the specific comfort she asked for, and he'd said do you want me to manipulate you? because I can—
or something. It has been enough years for even Bastien's memory to fail on the specifics.
In the meantime, while he's trying to chew, he taps the tip of By's nose. ]
It would be awful and exhausting if we had to carry on like that forever, I know—so, alright, we won't invite any people who don't like the teasing to live with us. But that part of you is not a lie.
[ He admits that, because Bastien is looking at him so kindly. Even though in this moment he wants nothing more than to bury himself in shit and deny every decent part of himself, he can't. Not to Bastien. ]
But it's when I know that you need it of me. This wasn't - It wasn't anything like that. It was just silliness, from beginning to end, but even so it sparked some flame in her.
[ A questing tone, not one of finality; he doesn't know if that's right, or if that's all of it. Maybe it's a bit of projection, from a man who's thrown handwritten manuscripts out of windows and knocked Towers-age vases off of their pedestals because their owners made him feel stupid or small, but it's easy for him to imagine embarrassment setting someone off. ]
[ He looks up at Bastien, a bit of frustration bubbling through his manner. Accelerated, perhaps, by this talk of embarrassment. Byerly, who's survived by licking boots and abasing himself endlessly, doesn't entirely understand what's so bad about being embarrassed. It's simply a way of life. If someone blew up every time it happened, then how would they make it this far in life?
But, the more relevant topic: ]
It's not that it's a lie. It's that it is who I am. I can't turn it off. Not without knowing that I need to, and it's not like she gives me any signal that's what she needs. She communicates like a cipher.
[ Bastien holds an answer in his mouth: that in his experience her issue has been more than she's exceedingly direct, and if he is understanding the shape of their disagreement correctly then she did tell him, but he—
and then he swallows it, in the face of that bubbling frustration, and resumes hair-stroking, fingers hooked to scratch By's scalp as he goes. ]
Well, if you are not suited to being friends, that is her loss. Sometimes that is how it is, you know? Oil and water. It doesn't mean anything is wrong with the oil or the water—whichever you want to be in this metaphor. I think you should be the water.
And she is not Thedas' definitive authority on what makes a man fun to talk to. [ He tugs a lock of hair. ] I am.
[ A smile, for the fact that By can read him so well. For the fact that he has stopped trying not to be read. Even though it leaves him having to say, after all: ]
That you know now. If you want to try again sometime. I don't know that I would, but you— [ another pause, before he compromises with that dreary concept of dutiful love ] —care about her.
She should have told you that first, instead of deciding she was done. Especially when she had been giving as good as she got five minutes before. But your conversations have usually been difficult, you said, and she was embarrassed,
[ with confidence in that fact, only not in whether her response can be attributed to it, ]
I fought with the other division heads. I know, what else is new. But in a meeting, I provoked Derrica - you know I've had my doubts as to whether or not she's fit for this position, and she quite confirmed that she wasn't - and afterwards, they all but told me to quit because I was so dreadfully offensive. It just - I don't feel like I can change it any more than I can change my gait. Or my accent. When I think about it, yes, but as soon as my attention slips it's gone and I'm back to it.
[ has rueful underpinnings, Bastien’s smile small and eyes dimmed with worry. It’s not too cheerful a joke. But a joke nonetheless: ]
Now I really can’t make you run away with me anytime soon, or they will think you are running away from them.
[ He counts two of them as friends, sort of, to varying degrees, which makes it all the more annoying that the four of them collectively seem to manage less camaraderie and generosity with one another than Bastien’s managed with people who had previously quite literally tried to kill him.
—an assessment Byerly is not exempt from, of course, with the provocation. Bastien considers him and his talent for stirring up trouble and puffed-up outrage, which he finds so charming in a tavern—and doubly so in a stuffy ballroom—but likely would not find charming at all if he were trying to hack through it to achieve something. ]
You like attention, [ is frank, and extremely obvious, and nothing Byerly hasn’t said about himself. More of a prompt than a diagnosis. ]
[ But Byerly shakes his head very slightly. Then - ]
Well, yes, I do. But not from them. [ Apologetically: ] I know you're very fond of her, but if Yseult never spoke to me again, I would be far from heartbroken. In the rare moments she's not turning her nose up at my ideas, she's staring at me like I'm an idiot. Even a fellow with a predilection for haughty older women gets tired of it after a time.
I like - [ He blows out a breath. ] Getting somewhere. I like action. We were going around and around with Derrica on the Templar question, her being obstructionist and the others tiptoeing around her feelings. And the thought came to me, then, the Chantry mother isn't going to tiptoe around her feelings - and where will we be then? - and so I pushed. And then the others acted as though I were an idiot for treating the girl the way the world will treat her. Like I don't know what I'm doing. But it'll be on my head if she throws a temper tantrum at a visiting dignitary. Flint and Yseult, they can stay off to the side playing with their little toy soldiers, and Stark can retreat back to the lab to beat himself off or whatever he does, but I always have to be managing the tempests.
[ There’s a significant amount of information still missing, like what the Templar question was, and how exactly Byerly pushed. But for now, Bastien is stopping his hair-stroking in favor of producing and lighting one of his little cigarettes. ]
I can see why they would be careful. She has those enormous eyes, [ is not serious, or mostly not serious—he can imagine the wounded and disappointed gaze they’re capable of, and Maker help a weak-willed target— ] and the mages have already established that their assistance with the war might stop in a moment if they don’t have their way.
[ Hyperbole, for the sake of supportive bitching. But not that much. He wasn’t here, when they went on strike, but he certainly heard about it—with admiration, initially, but creeping jealousy can feel a lot like scorn. Anyone else trying the same thing to secure rights for their people would just be sent packing, easily replaced. ]
[ He holds up his hand, pleading for a cigarette. ]
And it's bloody cowardice. If the elves went on strike, the others would just glower impassively and invite them to leave. If the lower classes agitated against the nobility, they wouldn't give a damn. But they fear the mages. And so they stand back and do nothing, and then piss on me when I do.
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Date: 2023-03-07 11:29 pm (UTC)[ His eyes open very slightly, glinting behind his long lashes. He doesn't blink even when Bastien's fingers come close. ]
Her father saved my life, when I was younger. And duty, debt - it can create love. Like to a sister.
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Date: 2023-03-08 02:21 am (UTC)The last sentence distracts him, though, from arguing whether that's love, or maybe needs its own sort of word, like obliged or honor-bound. ]
Mm.
[ Intelligently. But he is thinking, about Gwenäelle—and Madame de Foncé, and Athessa, and Jenny Lou, and (in her distinct sort of way) Alexandrie. ]
Has a man ever troubled you this way?
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Date: 2023-03-08 02:27 am (UTC)A man? [ His brows furrow. ] What do you mean?
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Date: 2023-03-08 04:06 am (UTC)Whenever you have been so upset about someone saying something to you or being cross with you, it has been a young woman. I have never rubbed your back because you were quarreling with Benedict.
[ Back to Orlesian, ]
I suppose he might not have that in him. But you know what I mean, yeah?
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Date: 2023-03-08 02:45 pm (UTC)Maker. I think you're right. How ridiculous. "Like a sister" indeed.
[ At least, when he's prompted, he's able to find a little bit of insight into his own soul. That's a relatively new development. ]
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Date: 2023-03-08 09:34 pm (UTC)Or maybe that is too optimistic. But it would be nice, surely, regardless.
He'll bring it up later. Now, cautiously hopeful they'll be able to get through it now that By is thinking and laughing a little: ]
What happened exactly? Was it about that— [ little spat? not even that ] —conversation you had over the crystals?
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Date: 2023-03-08 09:57 pm (UTC)[ Now fully in Trade: ]
I followed up afterwards. I tried to invite her to play cards with me - She said no. Then she explained that I was being hurtful to her, and then I said that I hadn't meant to, that that's...just how we talk. You and I talk that way all the time. I insult you, you insult me - And she said that it was hurtful, and that speaking to me hurt, and that she would prefer not to. And did not allow me to respond.
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Date: 2023-03-09 03:11 am (UTC)That's all? Had she ever said anything about not wanting to carry on like that before?
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Date: 2023-03-09 03:20 am (UTC)[ He lets his eyes close again, enjoying Bastien's caresses. ]
But I've usually expected it, at least. It's been in moments of charged emotion. Not something like this.
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Date: 2023-03-15 04:21 pm (UTC)Maybe she wanted you to say you were sorry it hurt her, [ is a casual proposal, with little basis, ] and you would stop—instead of that that is just how we talk. But she might have given you more time.
[ Byerly, in his experience, isn't not someone who says he is sorry to his friends, so much as he is not someone who does it lightly. Bastien will say he is sorry to anyone, for anything, without much thought—maybe because most of the time the sorriness isn't a particularly deep sort. Like little seedlings that have barely grown roots and slip cleanly out of the earth when tugged. Meanwhile Byerly wrenches out fully-grown apology-shrubs that bring up chunks of dirt and stone and other plant's roots along with them. ]
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Date: 2023-03-15 06:53 pm (UTC)[ For a liar, Byerly has an odd sense of honesty. The thought of being dishonest when it comes to this - Out of the question. He might delude himself, but he won't knowingly deceive others. Not when he cares about them. ]
I likely won't stop. We can't just - be different, like flipping a switch. The way we walk in the world, the way we speak and thing, is habit. Old mabari don't take to new commands.
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Date: 2023-03-15 07:45 pm (UTC)You are not a mabari, [ is accompanied by a smile and the obvious, teasing withholding of any similar assurances that he is not old, before he repeats: ] You are a thousand things.
You are gentle and kind and serious, when I need you to be. If something bothers me, you don't joke about it. You listen.
[ He listens to Bastien in a way he does not listen to everyone—even to Alexandrie, Bastien knows, from his experience as an unhappy observer. There's something to chew on there. Some similarity between this and when Alexandrie was sitting on the floor, miserable about being denied the specific comfort she asked for, and he'd said do you want me to manipulate you? because I can—
or something. It has been enough years for even Bastien's memory to fail on the specifics.
In the meantime, while he's trying to chew, he taps the tip of By's nose. ]
It would be awful and exhausting if we had to carry on like that forever, I know—so, alright, we won't invite any people who don't like the teasing to live with us. But that part of you is not a lie.
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Date: 2023-03-15 08:37 pm (UTC)[ He admits that, because Bastien is looking at him so kindly. Even though in this moment he wants nothing more than to bury himself in shit and deny every decent part of himself, he can't. Not to Bastien. ]
But it's when I know that you need it of me. This wasn't - It wasn't anything like that. It was just silliness, from beginning to end, but even so it sparked some flame in her.
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Date: 2023-03-16 03:35 am (UTC)[ A questing tone, not one of finality; he doesn't know if that's right, or if that's all of it. Maybe it's a bit of projection, from a man who's thrown handwritten manuscripts out of windows and knocked Towers-age vases off of their pedestals because their owners made him feel stupid or small, but it's easy for him to imagine embarrassment setting someone off. ]
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Date: 2023-03-16 07:05 pm (UTC)I'm not sure if she's capable of embarrassment. I've never seen any sign of such a thing from her before.
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Date: 2023-03-17 04:21 pm (UTC)[ Rather than smoothing the furrows out, this time, he traces them, preemptively fond of the future wrinkles.
Another moment, and he's finished chewing. ]
I don't think it's lying, Byerly—to behave a little differently for people, if that is what they need.
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Date: 2023-03-17 04:32 pm (UTC)But, the more relevant topic: ]
It's not that it's a lie. It's that it is who I am. I can't turn it off. Not without knowing that I need to, and it's not like she gives me any signal that's what she needs. She communicates like a cipher.
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Date: 2023-03-17 05:04 pm (UTC)and then he swallows it, in the face of that bubbling frustration, and resumes hair-stroking, fingers hooked to scratch By's scalp as he goes. ]
Well, if you are not suited to being friends, that is her loss. Sometimes that is how it is, you know? Oil and water. It doesn't mean anything is wrong with the oil or the water—whichever you want to be in this metaphor. I think you should be the water.
And she is not Thedas' definitive authority on what makes a man fun to talk to. [ He tugs a lock of hair. ] I am.
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Date: 2023-03-17 05:53 pm (UTC)What were you going to say?
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Date: 2023-03-17 06:58 pm (UTC)That you know now. If you want to try again sometime. I don't know that I would, but you— [ another pause, before he compromises with that dreary concept of dutiful love ] —care about her.
She should have told you that first, instead of deciding she was done. Especially when she had been giving as good as she got five minutes before. But your conversations have usually been difficult, you said, and she was embarrassed,
[ with confidence in that fact, only not in whether her response can be attributed to it, ]
so—I don't know.
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Date: 2023-03-17 08:36 pm (UTC)I don't know if I can.
[ A breath out. ]
I fought with the other division heads. I know, what else is new. But in a meeting, I provoked Derrica - you know I've had my doubts as to whether or not she's fit for this position, and she quite confirmed that she wasn't - and afterwards, they all but told me to quit because I was so dreadfully offensive. It just - I don't feel like I can change it any more than I can change my gait. Or my accent. When I think about it, yes, but as soon as my attention slips it's gone and I'm back to it.
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Date: 2023-03-19 05:25 am (UTC)[ has rueful underpinnings, Bastien’s smile small and eyes dimmed with worry. It’s not too cheerful a joke. But a joke nonetheless: ]
Now I really can’t make you run away with me anytime soon, or they will think you are running away from them.
[ He counts two of them as friends, sort of, to varying degrees, which makes it all the more annoying that the four of them collectively seem to manage less camaraderie and generosity with one another than Bastien’s managed with people who had previously quite literally tried to kill him.
—an assessment Byerly is not exempt from, of course, with the provocation. Bastien considers him and his talent for stirring up trouble and puffed-up outrage, which he finds so charming in a tavern—and doubly so in a stuffy ballroom—but likely would not find charming at all if he were trying to hack through it to achieve something. ]
You like attention, [ is frank, and extremely obvious, and nothing Byerly hasn’t said about himself. More of a prompt than a diagnosis. ]
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Date: 2023-03-19 01:28 pm (UTC)Well, yes, I do. But not from them. [ Apologetically: ] I know you're very fond of her, but if Yseult never spoke to me again, I would be far from heartbroken. In the rare moments she's not turning her nose up at my ideas, she's staring at me like I'm an idiot. Even a fellow with a predilection for haughty older women gets tired of it after a time.
I like - [ He blows out a breath. ] Getting somewhere. I like action. We were going around and around with Derrica on the Templar question, her being obstructionist and the others tiptoeing around her feelings. And the thought came to me, then, the Chantry mother isn't going to tiptoe around her feelings - and where will we be then? - and so I pushed. And then the others acted as though I were an idiot for treating the girl the way the world will treat her. Like I don't know what I'm doing. But it'll be on my head if she throws a temper tantrum at a visiting dignitary. Flint and Yseult, they can stay off to the side playing with their little toy soldiers, and Stark can retreat back to the lab to beat himself off or whatever he does, but I always have to be managing the tempests.
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Date: 2023-03-19 08:42 pm (UTC)I can see why they would be careful. She has those enormous eyes, [ is not serious, or mostly not serious—he can imagine the wounded and disappointed gaze they’re capable of, and Maker help a weak-willed target— ] and the mages have already established that their assistance with the war might stop in a moment if they don’t have their way.
[ Hyperbole, for the sake of supportive bitching. But not that much. He wasn’t here, when they went on strike, but he certainly heard about it—with admiration, initially, but creeping jealousy can feel a lot like scorn. Anyone else trying the same thing to secure rights for their people would just be sent packing, easily replaced. ]
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Date: 2023-03-19 10:28 pm (UTC)[ He holds up his hand, pleading for a cigarette. ]
And it's bloody cowardice. If the elves went on strike, the others would just glower impassively and invite them to leave. If the lower classes agitated against the nobility, they wouldn't give a damn. But they fear the mages. And so they stand back and do nothing, and then piss on me when I do.
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